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Has anyone received their W2's from Kronos yet?


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NOT YET WENT TO HOTEL TODAY AND THEY TOLD US BY THE END OF THE WEEK HELLO ITS THURSDAY; BUT WE ALREADY KNOW THEY KEEP LYING TO US

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Most if not all of us will need IRS form 4852 This form you have to file when you dont get a w2. Here is the link straight to it so all you have to do is print it. Also save your last paystub.

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f4852.pdf

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I received w2s from alphastaff today

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I have the state and federal tax id number if anyone needs it I filed my taxes with my last paycheck stub from destination hospility and the id numbers

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I would go ahead and post them so anyone that needs them has them.


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The state Id is275768 and the federal id is 20-8416856 if you worked for them last year wherever you got your taxes done should have this on recordop

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Thank you for posting this.



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Not that anyone would do this, but these are desperate times and sometimes people do desperate things without thinking.  Please do not make out your own W-2 so you can go ahead and file your taxes. There are very severe repercussions for doing something like that and, YES, you will be caught!  We just have to be patient and go thru the right channels to do things.  I don't think any of us want to lower ourselves to be in the same category as Chucky and friends.

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Very good advise Sak....and for those naysayers out there that say this site is just for bitching and whining...from what I have seen the past two weeks...looks like it has been surving a pretty good purpose with people sharing information on W2's and such.  See the collective minds of many are better then 1.

Off Topic...Sak do you know who is at the Clarion there in Dubois?  I know they are still closed but we are getting daily hits from them still.

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*looks in mailbox*
hello...hello...hello...
*sticks hand in mailbox*
no W-2 yet
I think there is a better chance of me winning the lottery, and seeing a unicorn barf a rainbow on my yard than there is of me ever seeing an actual W-2 from them...



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I will be going to HR block today or tomorrow, more likely tomorrow the way things are going today. I will update in a new post as to exactly the procedure they are going to follow.

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The procedure will be no w-2, no filing before Feb 15.  The IRS will not returns without W-2's before Feb 15.  You will also need to be able to document what efforts YOU did to obtain a W-2, the name, address, and phone # of the employer, which while we want to blame Kronos remember each property was set up as it's own LLC so I would go prepared with BOTH names, addresses and phone #'s.

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Ok Riddle me this batman.  I am not understanding..at this point and time everyone is waiting for a W2 that will probably never come. 

The IRS Says wait for such and such date.  Ok I can understand that for the most part.  But come on..we are probably talking about several thousand employees spread across all the states through all the properties.  What happened to the "they must be mailed out by the 31st rule?" 

This is not a case of just possible getting lost in the mail.  This is a case of fraud and neglect on Kronos Hotels part to issue them.  With this many people being affected you think someone from the IRS would step in and say hey maybe we should be proactive here.

Why is it because a "corporation" decides they are just gonna say screw the rules we are gonna do it our way everyone else has to suffer. 

I know I know...someone is gonna reply to this and say they will face penalties...you mean like the time when they...wait..they have never faced penalties.  They always come out unscratched.

What will happen is they will get contacted by the IRS sometime this year while everyone is still waiting around.  The IRS will threaten them, they will get an extension and blame it on something or someone....the IRS will threaten them again..They will get another extention or if one is not granted they will scramble and come up with some BS to hand over to the IRS.  The IRS will then take the documents, look them in the eyes and say...its ok this time...just dont do this again.  Thank them, and be on their way.  End of story. 


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The state Id is275768 and the federal id is 20-8416856 if you worked for them last year wherever you got your taxes done should have this on recordop


Is that the State ID for KY? Does anybody have some of the numbers for the other states like Alabama?? Might not hurt to list them out just in case
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Oh yeah.  It sucks royally.  But what really sucks is the bottom line that nobody in the friggin government cares.  Don't know if you noticed that in any of your conversations with the governmental agencies.  When I talked with the unemployment office last week and said I would be appealing my case as there was X amount of dollars of income that my employer never reported the reply was, "Oh my. There's a lot of that."   THERE'S A LOT OF THAT????  Why?  What's going on?  What are you doing about it?   We don't want to pay taxes because of government waste, and they do know how to do that.  So they keep making cuts in staff but the work pile keeps growing because businesses are increasing. The honest businesses suffer because of the scum bags like KRONOS.  Government bullies the honest businesses because they know they will comply but the scumbags take too much resources to get out of them what they owe.  There are not severe enough laws and the system is too overburdened with crap to deal with it.  What would be appropriate to do to Chucky.  Strip him of everything he has, stick him on a sinking rowboat in the middle of the Pacific, and tell him to paddle his sorry ass back to Malaysia.   And that's even too good for him.  I would prefer we adopt the Chinese 5 cent method of dealing with scum but the lawyers would scream themselves hoarse defending the poor misunderstood bastard.  We get screwed and he's busy licking his fingers.

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Has anyone received their W2's from Kronos yet?



I received my W-2 via Alpha Staff over the weekend.

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HR block said that the IRS will pick up on it. But as stated earlier in the thread nothing will come of it. If you got a w2 file, if not you have to wait til the 15th. Going to bite my tongue now before I go off on a profanity laced tirade

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But again back to my original point...will the IRS pick up on it?  Eventually when they get around to it and its convenient to them.  That 15th deadline....thats just that...a deadline that can and most likely will be extended.  Why do they have to wait.  There is already proof that wages and taxes were not reported...why are they not involved yet?  Pick up on it?  Whatever...alot of these people are counting on this stuff to help get them through tough times...where is the justice for them.  They can wait 6 months and finally get a piece of paper showing some number..file and then get a penalty for filing late.  Yet Charles Morais, Raj Mir, Sunil Mir, and Kronos hotels and resorts will walk away with their hands clean as a doctors tools. 


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This was just sent to me by Cedar Rapids IA, and they asked me to pass it on.  So here ya go!!!

"Prism has paid ADP to process the W-2's for Kronos properties. We received them in CR today and have mailed ours out. The other hotels should be getting theirs also soon.  There was a company they used for 2 pay periods in October I think it was they will not be getting W-2's for those. I think those were the destination hospitality.  We had a payroll register to give check information, and were able to give employees the government IRS form  to use when you can't get a W-2 from a company. 

Prism also negotiated to get the Alpha Staff w-2's released. They have been good to the employees"



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Let me just voice my opinions for a moment.... First of all, the government wont do anything. I found out not too long ago that Kronos and every other name that they have used hasn't reported ANYTHING for ANY property. EVER!!! Even when they did send out W2's to use one year they still didn't report the revenue on the employees behalf! They don't file taxes because they don't pay them!!! All I can say is it is up to each one of us to keep up with what our earnings were/are and report what we have otherwise nobody would ever know.

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lol what they sent out was 1099 misc form with incorrect wages.....Prism also sent out a 4852 with one weeks of wages they paid employees in cedar rapids.....the 1099 misc was listed as non employee wages.....and included the wages that prism themselves paid and reported on the form 4852...they were hand written out with Portfolio's information and then a sticker was attached to cover the name of portfolio with the prism name both using the same tax payer identification number...my 1099 misc claimed i was paid 784 dollars in one years time of full time employment? doesn't even match up my last paycheck stub...also said i paid NO TAXES to federal or State.....Do Not Use these if you receive them...Call prism immediately and dispute the claim with IRS or you will be paying taxes twice....Taking mine now to my Lawyer and hr Block tax professionals. Hr Block can still rapid refund your taxes with last check, they will file your 4852 n in 2 weeks will finalize your return after feb.17th.I have already started on mine.....Good Luck All I will post a scan copy of the form i received after i go make a photo copy of it n block out my own personal information on it.....

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I am going to have to defend Prism on this one.  They came into a very volatile situation.  They were asked by the courts to come in and run these properties...actually they were asked before the courts ordered it but Kronos refused to vacate for the most part.  If everyone remembers correctly there was that initial period of two weeks that noone seemed to know who they worked for.

Judging by what I am seeing on that 1099 Misc form it looks as though that was for one of the pays that Prism made good on on behalf of Kronos at the beginning.  Hence the "Portfolio Cedar Rapids" at the beginning.  Letting you know who it was for.  I could be totally off on this but thats honestly what it looks like to me.

If you did not get that money, well I dont have an excuse or a defense for that one except I would double and triple check and make sure because, remember the beginning of the Prism takeovers was a very hectic time and confusing time for all.

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I haven't gotten a 1099 from Prism, but I did get a W2 from Prism and another W2 from Hyperion in the same day. Funny thing is that Prism and Hyperion both have the exact same address listed on it but with different EIN #s. The W2 that came from Hyperion was actually the check we were paid when Kronos wouldn't pay up after the take over. Now I am still waiting on the W2 for the rest of the year prior to Prism but I know I wont see one so I shall use my last check. However, if anyone tries to send me a 1099 like the one cedar posted they can stick it. I paid taxes and have check stubs to prove it. Prism is getting in deeper and deeper.

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Someone I know called ADP and they said they had nothing to do with Kronos   

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Apparently this is true. I got a w2...an accurate one. Late yesterday. This was from ADP. I dont know about alpha staff but if you had adp, I'm sure its coming. A small bit of good news for a change.


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i've visited this website for months and months now. i didn't say anything because i was smart enough and lucky enough to get the heck out of kronosland. but now...waiting for my w-2 is pissing me off. well, knowing i won't get one is actually what is pissing me off. we follow the rules, we're the good ones and what happens. they do whatever the hell they want with no repercussions. nice job irs!

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Ok news has been slow it seems like everything is at kind of a stand still.  Whats the status on everyones W2's.  I am starting to doubt the validity of the Prism paying off ADP thing since it seems that several properties still have not seen a thing.


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In Louisville they told us they would be here this week......yeah right dont hold your breath

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Someone just sent me a private message stating that they were sent out from ADP at the end of the week last week.  3-5 business days can get a piece of 1st class mail coast to coast.  So lets see what the next day or two brings.


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Just wanted to let everyone know for what its worth, as I was going through the hit counter today Internal Revenue Service from Washington DC was on the site.  So we at least know they are well aware of what is going on.

My next question would be...what are they going to do about it.  Why make everyone go through this when a lil intervention can go along way.

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makes me wonder if we all might be flagged somehow due to some folks fudging W2 numbers from their last paystubs just to get their refunds quicker.
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I'm one of the employees from the DuBois property... haven't seen a W2 yet. I'm wondering how many other properties had their payroll accounts switched from ADP to some other company around Halloween, and if either one will be sending our tax info. What makes it even worse is I don't even have a final paystub with YTD income because when they quit paying us, we received cash or personal checks under the table with an estimated amount of taxes withheld. Yippee.

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Ms. Amber...I hate to say this but you prolly wont see a W2.  The W2's that people ARE recieving from ADP are the ones from the properties Prism paid to get them. 

Since Prism was not involved in Dubois once again, you guys way up there in the middle of nowhere are left out in the cold again.  To be honest its a damn shame.  You probably wont get anywhere but I would recommend calling ADP, raise holy hell with them.  Tell them it doesnt matter what company you worked for, they issued your paycheck and you want your W2.  Again, you probably wont get anywhere but if you put up enough stink they may be more willing to give you a push in the right direction.

The last thing I would do is sit around and wait for the IRS to straighten it out.  The governement is to wrapped up in baseball players doing steroids to worry about a few thousand people not getting W2's or getting screwed over by their employer.

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I got an idea maybe if we tell the IRS that Chuck and company are connected to A-Roid maybe they will give a crap.

Thank god I only have to deal with this W-2 thing once.
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Thanks for the advice... I did call adp and they basically blew me off and told me to get in touch with my HR manager. So yeah, another dead end. Sigh. I know alot of people keep saying it, but how on earth can these people get away with this???

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Ok so its Valentines Day.  Happy Valentines day to everyone. 

Now as far as W2's I know the Lancaster PA property still have not recieved anything from ADP.  Has anyone else gotten them?

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can you tell me what is wrong with using your last check stub? why isn't it the same thing. i put mine in and it made my return smaller. which is fine. i'm claiming the money i made. i'm not lying about anything, so what is wrong with it?

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Technically you should be able to use your last pay stub.  But if the taxes werent reported then you probably will get audited or your return rejected.  Thats why they have the prcedures they have.  Your best bet would be to call on the 17th make your complaint fill out the proper forms and go from there.

Now what gets me about this is in the past week we have several hits from the IRS so its not like noone there knows whats going on.  Why cant someone step in why make all these people wait until last minute and call.  Bottom line is if anyone is late with their taxes they will be at fault.  And once again Kronos will skipp hand and hand off into the sunset under the rainbow...

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crazy, so someone reports all of their income and gets audited. that's the price of honesty. gotta love em.

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Well duh!!!!!  If you want to get ahead in life you have to learn to lie cheat and steal...i.e. Kronos


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You also forgot that you have to be foreign as well. lol

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Thanks to all who responded.


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Just an FYI Lancaster Pa property got their ADP W2 forms today.  Almost 2 weeks after they were supposedly mailed.


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Lansing, MI got ours today as well

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Dothan, AL received W2s for both properties today.

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Ok can someone please tell me how they arrived?  Fed-X or United States Postal?


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Fed Ex in Lansing

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I HAVE SPOKEN TO SEVERAL PEOPLE TODAY IN LOUISVILLE,KY THAT HAVE RECEIVED THEIR W2S TODAY.
MINE CAME IN THE MAIL BY U.S.POSTAL SERVICE.  HOPE
EVERYONE GETS THEIRS!!!
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ok my question is this.  Someone sent me a private message explaining how they got theirs and the process that was set forth to get them.  Seems like different places were told different things.

Lancaster Property was told they were sent to the properties 2 Thursdays ago.  Well if they came fed-x then last time I checked they should have been there long ago..someone was lieing to someone.  And now someone else says they got theirs in the mail. 

On a good note, it appears as though people are getting them finally at least.  I guess if anyone is expecting one from actual Kronos themselves for that period in between payroll companies they are probably the ones that will not show up.  Who knows.  This has all gotten very confusing.  Hopefully people have enough to file their taxes now and can put this part of the saga behind them.

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